George Broussard on #Duke3D   12-9-96

Log by Rob Brown/Lon Matero
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<GeorgB3DR> hey guys...
<RobBrown> !clonedo /dccsend me a beer
<[vince]> heya George
<RobBrown> Hi George
<Cyberllam> hey
<Wump|LURK> hiya george
<GeorgB3DR> Raise your hand if you have the Plutonium slowdown bug.  I think we 
fixed it.
<Blackhnd> Hey George ;)
<[vince]> George: you just missed Mark and Jon from Epic in #unreal
* Cyberllam raises his hand
<GeorgB3DR> yippie...
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<Wump|LURK> dcc to me george? heehheeh?
<GeorgB3DR> who's got the slowdown bug in Plut PAK. Anyone
<RobBrown> Hi sean
<Wump|LURK> hiya sean
<Llamaman> hey
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<sean> w0
<sean> y0
<Blackhnd> I did till the smartdrv thing
<RobBrown> I think MtlHead and Blackhnd did
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<sean> lots info from my fone convo with markr (vince prez of Epic) posted to 
www.shadows.co.uk
<sean> y0 georgey ;)
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<Blackhnd> althought smartdrv 4000 dosent work on or after the second level, have to 
do smartdrv 8000
<LevelMast> Hey George.....Whats going on with Duke Nukem 3d for the Nintendo 64?
<MtlHead> Hiya George!  What's Shakin':)
<nox_> how about duke nukem for X :)
<GeorgB3DR> I think an N64 deal is in the works...Only info I have now
<nox_> screw nintendo.. :)
<MtlHead> Had a guy by the name of Alien in here yesterday with the slowdown prob.
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  You get the slowdown bug in Plut PAK?
<LevelMast> The n64 version was told that it would have fog and other special 
effects.....thats what n64.com told everyone
<MtlHead> George, Yep
<Wump|LURK> garrp has that problem too i think
<MtlHead> smartdrv 4000 works for a bit... then it starts slowing down again...but 
not as bad without it.
<MtlHead> I ran for awhile under smartdrv 6000 and it seemed to work
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<Blackhnd> I went from 4 to 8 ;)
<Blackhnd> nothing in between
<{Poison}> has some1 got a game.con file that works with the Plut Pak addon they can 
send me, mine is corrupt
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<RobBrown> {Poison} on #Duke3D #Warez-UK 
<{Poison}> so what
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<RobBrown> Aye another pirate matey!!
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-MtlHead- <{|MNcript|}> 2.00 GRD Begone, mortal.
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<RobBrown> Sorry...I don't like freeloaders. ;)
-Cyberllam- I do not have bitchn.wav.....you may send it to me if you like.
<GeorgB3DR> And people wonder why Plut PAK requires the CD?  Gimme a break :)
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<Wump|LURK> heheheh, heard that
<Peon> Hi.  I am just your normal, run of the mill peon
<Wump|LURK> you would think the /onjoin would be enough
<Soulnet_> yah really, no way yah can warez plut pak, it needs the cd, some people 
are so dumb
<RobBrown> He just messaged me why I kicked him.;)
<Wump|LURK> copy our comments to him rob ;)
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<RobBrown> He claims he simply has a corrupt file...yeah.....my dog scrathed the 
CD... right!
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<Peon> \/part #duke3d
<Peon> oops
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<Apes> Whats a good duke3d map web page
<Wump|LURK> rob, in all seriousness, i had a guy tell me that once
<nox_> since duke nukem was so successfull, do you think there will be a duke 
nukem3d II (for lack of a better term)?
<RobBrown> I may possibly be getting PPak today in the mail George, but I haven't 
encountered the slowdown bug in beta
<GeorgB3DR> Nox:  Yes...
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<GeorgB3DR> Count on it
<RobBrown> Wumpus:No way to prove it though
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<Wump|LURK> apes, www.filefactory.com
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<GeorgB3DR> rob:  very few people will get it, but if you do...
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<Wump|LURK> I am george, heheh
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<Wump|LURK> will the BUILD be all 3D?
<nox_> Oh cool.. but im really wondering - will be feature new effects, or 
developments to the duke nukem engine? otherwise it might be just like.. well.. 
duke nukem II.. :P
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<nox_> will it, rather.
<RobBrown> George:I'll e-mail you on CIS if I can re-produce it
<nox_> duke3d II.. errr
<Wumpus> what rob? i missed it?!?!
<RobBrown> Wumpus:A slowdown bug in PPak
<nox_> i think im trying to ask if Duke Nukem 3d II will be to Duke Nuke, what Doom2 
was to doom.. or if dn3dII will have new stuff
<RobBrown> George thinks they have fixed it
<GeorgB3DR> nox:  We are not talking about the next Duke game....just yet...
<nox_> oh.. poo 
<DOLey> inother words probably no
<DOLey> right :)
<RobBrown> George:Are you still planning on doing a possible summer release of more 
(pentium only) levels?
<GeorgB3DR> DOLey:  Not exactly....
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<nox_> itd be cool if you could make a game like Duke Nukem II for instance, and 
then just release add-on episodes than you can plug right into the game..
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  All Duke plans are on hold right now, while we sort it all out.  
We will provide a Duke plan soon with info
<RobBrown> George:Ok
<Blackhnd> Good George, I think thats what you guys need to do is sit down and get 
everything sorted out ;)
<GeorgB3DR> right now we are working on v1.5 of Plutonium and Atomic and testing 
that for final production
<RobBrown> That's good news George
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<Wumpus> great george, tell me can the bots fly now..or get outta water?
<DOLey> not to be a heckler but how can Duke, Blood, and SW honestly compete with 
Quake, DF2, QuakeII, Hexan II and Unreal ?
<Blackhnd> hmmm
<GeorgB3DR> wumpus,  they are pretty stupid still...
<RobBrown> Is Atomic Editon being held back until version 1.5? Will there be a 
Atomic 1.4?
<Blackhnd> this is a first i have seen doley alive ;)
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<GeorgB3DR> Duke competes well with Quake now, so....
<DOLey> if the plans are to be releaseing SW and Blood + add on levels for Duke 
arround the same time
<Blackhnd> Doley, but how can all those game compare to prey ? ;)
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<Rdrr> howdy!
<DOLey> it competes well ?
<RobBrown> Hi Rdrr
<GeorgB3DR> our sales haven't slowed down much...
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<DOLey> I really enjoyed Duke a last spring, but not it is old
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<Rdrr> Hi George!
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<DOLey> do you have the sales charts listed some where?
<Blackhnd> But Quake dosent have any REAL colors! ;)
<DOLey> Quake add on levels do
<Wumpus> yah george, some people don't seem to understand that....they all have p166 
systems i think
<DOLey> Quake the game wasn't a beatutiful game but th4e addon levels and stuff are 
much better
<Wumpus> i played quake last week, and it is old already
<DOLey> Quake plays well on a p75
<GeorgB3DR> As long as a game is "fun" it will do well.  Period
<Blackhnd> ok so you pay $50, then have to pay another $30 to get real colors? 
<Blackhnd> I just like the games for their multiplayer features ;)
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<DOLey> Comander Keen is fun but I don't see people buying that still
<DOLey> most of the addon levels and stuff are free for Quake
<DOLey> take ultimate Quake for instance
<RobBrown> Duke is like the energizer bunny......he keeps going
<DOLey> it is a little rough but it beats Duke in fun
<Blackhnd> Ultimate quake was good but i dont see why id couldnt put all that stuff 
in the game
<Wumpus> kudos george, i'm good and tired of this quack stuff
<Oche> Wait until we see jedi knight deathmatch guys...:)
<Oche> That'll be the one...
* Wumpus wishes someone would establish #dukeVquake
<DOLey> I see you are all as brainwashed as I was last year
<Blackhnd> Sorry my view are different DOLey
<DOLey> I just say give it a chance play it 
<DOLey> enjoy it
<DOLey> kill people
<J0B> hi all
<Oche> yeah i would like to kick some quakers butt...
<DOLey> and start leagues like the Big10 Quake league
<GeorgB3DR> I like Quake a lot, because it is "fun".  Also like Duke and Tomb 
Raider.
<J0B> hey wumpus
<J0B> rdrr!
<RobBrown> DOLey:There's always room for other games though
<Blackhnd> Im a true 3DR fan, i literally think the id guys are assholes along with 
some of the quake guys and this isnt the first time i have said this
* Wumpus sighs
<DOLey> but oh well
<Oche> lol
<Blackhnd> But that is my own view
<Wumpus> doley, this is #duke3d
<Wumpus> i have, it is boring
<DOLey> I enjoy the games from Appogee but they apear to be behind in Tech
<Blackhnd> Someone like disruptor can love the id guys andf think 3DR blows and it 
wont bother me one bit
<Oche> i gotta say that duke3d is better than quake...
<Wumpus> hiya j0
<DOLey> I would love to see Duke3d with the Quake engine or the Unreal engine etc
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<Oche> quake can be more impressive but when it comes to fast combat...hehehe
<Blackhand> It is planned for the Prey engine in a few years ;)
<Wumpus> yah, the op from a quack chan was in here floodin last week...then wouldn't 
even speak when i confronted him
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<Blackhand> At least that is the last ive heard
<_Cyrax_> back
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<Zuljin> hey all
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<Rdrr> howdy zuljin
<RobBrown> Hi
<Blackhand> George did we lose you somewhere? ;)
<GeorgB3DR> no
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<Oche> hey
<Pax|QI> hi
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<Blackhand> Just checkin that your still breathen ;)
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<RobBrown> George:I've been talked into an Intel based system over the Cyrix based 
system. :)
<_Cyrax_> Duke nukem is getting to be like some sierra titles
<GeorgB3DR> sorry, on the phone etc and got distracted...
<Blackhand> hehehehe 
<GeorgB3DR> rob:  good....
<DOLey> well would 3dR consider buying an engine so that Prey can be released some 
time this centry?
<_Cyrax_> duke nukem 1, kings quest 1, duke nukem 2, kings quest 2, duke nukem 3, 
kings quest 3,
<_Cyrax_> hehehe
<_Cyrax_> when will the madnesss stop?!?!?
<RobBrown> But the Voodoo video car is gonna have to wait. :)
<Rdrr> Rob, Trader!!! =)
<Rdrr> lol
<_Cyrax_> j/k
<GeorgB3DR> Cyrax:  Duke is like Mario for the PC.  Expect lots more from him.
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<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  that's ok, you sitll have time before all game support 3D 
accelerator's.
<DOLey> I love playing the games but the engines are substandard
<_Cyrax_> hey george
<Blackhand> Ha!
<RobBrown> George:Thats' what I figure too
<_Cyrax_> didn't even notice you come in
<Blackhand> I have to put that one on my quotes page ;)
<_Cyrax_> heheh
<GeorgB3DR> Is plutonium pak available in stores near you yet??/
<DOLey> it wasn't in Boston
<DOLey> or in State College
<Pax|QI> dunno, I don't get out much :(
<Blackhand> Yeah, MtlHead bought it locally here in vegas
<DOLey> I saw it all over the net a week or so ago though 
<RobBrown> Yes...It's in Yakima Costco for $30
<Rdrr> George, not in Niagara Falls, Canada
<_Cyrax_> nope
<DOLey> haven't seen it recently any more
<_Cyrax_> noticed that sierra knockoff
<Waster> The stores had it, but sold out.
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<_Cyrax_> not in NJ
<Blackhand> I'd liek to see you guys find a tickle me Elmo in a sotre near you ;)
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<DOLey> I think it is over priced though
<DOLey> compared to the full game
<Wumpus> got it in OH on thanksgiving
<_Cyrax_> who doenst.
<Blackhand> DOLey, you here to just dis us or what? ;)
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<Blackhand> Can anyone say "Duke is c00l!" ;)
<DOLey> no I am just in a bad mood
<MtlHead> BH, My wife works in Wal-Mart....and is the Dep Manager of toys.....she 
freaks if you even mention the words "Tickle Me Elmo":)
* Pax|QI can, but oddly doesn't
<DOLey> and I am disapointed in the system
<Rdrr> haha
<_Cyrax_> and WHAT IS THAT SMELL??? ARGH!
<DOLey> it just seems that there is so much wasted / lost talent that Apogee had 
<Rdrr> oh crap, gotta go, l8r all
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<RobBrown> DOLey:I take it the finals aren't going well
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<DOLey> no I jsut got gibbed
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<DOLey> on my comp sci exam
<Pax|QI> wheeee! netsplit!
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<Pax|QI> #quake is going nuts
<Pax|QI> doh
<GeorgB3DR> cya guys, gotta run real fast...
<DOLey> sorry if I came off as an ass hole
<Pax|QI> cya Ceorgy
<Pax|QI> Georgy even

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<MattCake> Hey GeorgB3DR
<GeorgB3DR> Hi all,
<D_Nukem> Hello George!
<GeorgB3DR> Who here gets the slowdown bug when playing Plut PAK??
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<MattCake> Hey _TheMAD_
<Blackhand> Would that be before or after smartdrv?
<D_Nukem> George: Sorry, I don't have the problem.
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<MattCake> Hey Nman
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<Nman> Hey 
<AlfredE> George!
<Blackhand> D should have it ;)
<_TheMAD_> well hey I just say George come up in my notify list and instantly came 
here :)
<GeorgB3DR> Bl;ack:  When v1.5 comes out  you shouldn't need smartdrv much :)
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<MattCake> Hey LevelMast
<Blackhand> cool ;)
<LevelMast> Hiya George
<LevelMast> Hiya Everyone
<_TheMAD_> yes! when is it out? :)
<GeorgB3DR> hi Mast...
<Cyberllam> George: Back AGain?!?!
<GeorgB3DR> V1.5 patch will be online within a week.
<_TheMAD_> will Bots play coop? will they be smarter and less cheaters?
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<MattCake> Hey PSX
<GeorgB3DR> Anyone other than Black have the Plut PAK slowdown bug???
<Nman> Hey george, will there be a pluto patch soon?!
<Cyberllam> OR did I just scroll up too far :)
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<GeorgB3DR> TheMAD:  not that much of a patch
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<_TheMAD_> I've got it
<JWolf> Hello.
<D_Nukem> George: Will the Atomic Edition be 1.4 when it comes out?
<JWolf> Hi, George...
<PSX> george: mine comes to a crawling stop on big leveles
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<_TheMAD_> but Smartdrv solves it very well.. it disapears
<Cerebris> Hi George!
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  no, it will be 1.5
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<dEcAy> Anyone got any tips to speeding PPak up?
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<dEcAy> Hey! Hiya George
* IronMUTE has it too but a reboot fixes it. Seems like memory is corrupted.
<D_Nukem> decay: They are working on fixing it right now
-Blackhand- -CHANOPS- #duke3d:Amazing these people all come in when george gets 
here ;)
* Cyberllam will BRB (MOnty Python and The Quest for the Holy GRAil is on and I 
wanna see the fight scene with the Black Knight..)
<dEcAy> Cool
<D_Nukem> decay: Actually, that is why George is here.
-> Ops on #Duke3D: Mostly #Unreal people flock in here
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<dEcAy> Guess I came at the right time :)
<GeorgB3DR> The slowdown is fixed and we are just testing it and looking from more 
bugs
<PSX> george: it freakin does it on: low detail : no shadows : and a minimized 
screen..
<_TheMAD_> so 1.5 will only be some bugs and no Bots update?
<GeorgB3DR> yes, mainly the slowdown bug (that led to lotsa others).
<|Rott|> george: i read somewhere about duke3d coming out to the N64 and if u 
weren't allowed to keep the stripers in you would make nintendo look real bad 
and shit like that, is that true?
<dEcAy> Yeh Rott I read that too
<GeorgB3DR> rott:  We will see.  The N64 deal is in the works.  If there are no 
strippers.....it's not our fault
<|Rott|> if it is 
<|Rott|> then fuck 3dRealms :)
<D_Nukem> George: Are you rushing to get 1.5 done so that it goes into the 
re-release Atomic Edition?
-Blackhand- -CHANOPS- #duke3d:Cyrax came in here last night yelling that George 
stole his Dukebot and put it in the PPak
<|Rott|> ehehe
<Nman> hehehehe
<|Rott|> just kidding
<Nman> Fuck 3drealms alright
<|Rott|> N64 rox
<Cerebris> Better be
<D_Nukem> That's it
-Blackhand- -CHANOPS- #duke3d:It shut him up when I told him 3DR had thiers back in 
june or july
<dEcAy> How about Prey? Will that is there any plans for that to appear on N64?
-> -#Duke3D- SwearKick(tm) enabled!
<|Rott|> and nintendo is the best company for entertainment sys's out there
<LevelMast> n64 Rox alright!
<Cerebris> 3drealms rules...
<dEcAy> Rott: LOL! I few months ago you said Sega Saturn rox
<_TheMAD_> who cares about making Nintendo look bad it's a piece of shit anyways
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<|Rott|> u do somethin to nintendo and i will f u up :)
<GeorgB3DR> decay:  Prey is too early to talk about.  I'm sure it will be ported
<Nman> sorry
<dEcAy> Okay
<Nman> hehe
<Nman> SwearKick
<|Rott|> decay: that was like give or take a year ago :P
<dEcAy> hehehe
-> -#Duke3D- Anyone have a voting script?
<_TheMAD_> so there is no chance of a Bot patch?
<dEcAy> Any more news on Shadow Warrior?
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-Blackhand- -CHANOPS- #duke3d:not me
<dEcAy> D_Nukem: I got one
-Cyberllam- I do
<GeorgB3DR> themad:  not this early
<GeorgB3DR> decay:  the new PC GAMES has Shadow Warrior on the cover and a nice 
interview etc
<_TheMAD_> Bots cant play CoOp and they are too good at some things and too bad at 
others
<D_Nukem> decay is going to do a vote
<AlfredE> MAD:got it.
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<GeorgB3DR> doubt the bots will ever be co-op
<_TheMAD_> I think I have a voting script... wait a sec
<Cyberllam> Shouldn't their be skill levels with the Bots?
<D_Nukem> TheMAD: decay is doing it already
<Nman> yes
<MattCake> ulmo:was that script knackered?
<GeorgB3DR> they were just a late addition to test the theory.  We will expand them 
in future games like Shadow Warrior
<Cyberllam> Co-op is no fun
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<_TheMAD_> what do you want to vote on?
<AlfredE> of what?
<Ulmo> .
<MattCake> hg:that work?
<Nman> vote damnit
<dEcAy> I think the bot idea is cool... just needs to be improved
<Ulmo> it says Hi there $nick
<Ulmo> Welcome to $chan!
<Ulmo> hehe
<MattCake> damn
<MattCake> hehe
<GeorgB3DR> Has everyone bought Plutonium and if not, why not?
<Hg_Away> yeah
<dEcAy> Damnit ppl vote :)
<LevelMast> I havent :(
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<LevelMast> boo hoo!!
<LevelMast> WAH!
<Cyberllam> I haven't 
<Cyberllam> I don't have money
<LevelMast> Best buy is sold out
<LevelMast> :~(
<Hg_Away> I haven't
<TheMAD> -=[siT T0Z P V+G +H]=-
<LevelMast> I went up there today
<TheMAD> [[Topic:
<TheMAD> [[Options: YES, NO or MAYBE]]
<TheMAD> [[/ctcp TheMAD YES, NO or MAYBE]]
<TheMAD> [[Time Left: 120 secs]]
<Hg_Away> Don't have money :( 
<Hg_Away> same here
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<Cyberllam> And I have to find my regular CD and reinstall regular Duke
<_TheMAD_> yes
<MattCake> hmm, almost
<Nman> YES
<Ulmo> warez takes time! hehe j/k
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<Cyberllam> I had to temporaliy delete it to install VBR
<D_Nukem> George: Will all future Apogee/3D Realms games require the CD while 
playing?
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<AlfredE> George: are the ninjas in SW going to be Duke3d Bot-like?
<MattCake> I am searching for a game in montreal
<MattCake> hah
<MattCake> 6 years of french not wasted
<MattCake> <G>
<dEcAy> Well since no-one is voting
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<muscles> thank
<Nman> I voted twice
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<Nman> hehe
<GeorgB3DR> alfred:  Um no
<dEcAy> I gotta fix that :)
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<Ulmo> hey
<AlfredE> George: I still can't find the PP in San Antonio... must be sold out
<Ulmo> what is this <G> thing?
<dEcAy> I can't wait to rip someones heart out in that game :)
<QWAB> whos George is here
<QWAB> hey
<PC-Loaded> <G> is grin
<Ulmo> MattCake, where in montreal?
<Hg_Away> ping me
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  Might, seems like every game I play does.  Tomb Raider, Red Alert, 
C&C, WarCraft2 etc.  So, I don't see the probelm with getting a CD.
<Cyberllam> DEmi-god :I am not in MOntreal and I don't really wanna pay that kind 
of long distance, not to mention I don't know how to tuant people in FRech
<Nman> George - so when is the patch gonna come out?!
<PC-Loaded> Duke sux
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<dEcAy> Uhhhhh
<dEcAy> I hate ppl that do that
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<GeorgB3DR> Yeah, Duke blows...
<AlfredE> George: So they won't be picking up weapons, that sort of thing?
<Cerebris> I hate it when people do that...especially when Georg eis here
<D_Nukem> George: If you are requiring the CD...will any data be read off of it 
(Movies, Music) to save hard drive space in future games?
<muscles> There is just english person here?
<Ulmo> ummm ok
<GeorgB3DR> Nman: Probably the weekend
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<_TheMAD_> many people that bought the game also got the warez crack just to get 
rid of the CD check
<jimmy> hi all
<GeorgB3DR> Alfred:  Dunno yet...probably not.  Would suck to lose your weapon 
to a bot in single play.  you need it
<Hg_Away> i outa flood him
<GeorgB3DR> themad:  I'm sure they did, but many won't and that stops piracy
<Ulmo> gonna go play subspace
<Ulmo> bye everyone!
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<Ulmo> u don't need a warez crack!
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<GeorgB3DR> DN:  Yes, future games will have CD music etc.  Shadow Warrior will 
be CD music, except for the shareware version
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<Ulmo> just make a cdrom.ini file
<Ulmo> and type stuff in it
<QWAB> George Does blood have team play?
<GeorgB3DR> qwab:  I think it willm when done
<Ulmo> buhbye
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<Nman> george - when you finish the extra episode, it says expect a sequal 
soon.... WHEN?
<QWAB> George cool
<^BlAdE^> george: would u say blood is the 1st game to excel polygonial 
characters without actually using any and therefore clearing up the idead 
that plygons is better?
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<GeorgB3DR> Nman:  We will do a new Duke 3D game.  That's all we are saying for 
now.
<QWAB> george so does that mean in share or reg?
<GeorgB3DR> Blade:  No, not at ALL!
-> Ops on #Duke3D: Doug Howell was just on here for a sec
<GeorgB3DR> Blasde:  Blood and Shadow Warrior just use voxels for items etc, so 
they look 3D.  They look very good, but Blood way over hyped the "better than 
polygon" thing.  They are cool.  Leave it at that
<^BlAdE^> george: would u mind explaining the whole character based development 
system for us as far as what the character is comprised of
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<GeorgB3DR> Blade:  No need, just a klunky process to create the voxels/3D 
sprites
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<AlfredE> George: how are you going to do the skull weapon thing in SW? Will it 
just be like a weapon (a specific # on the keyboard, etc)?
<D_Nukem> George: What is this Blood beta tester thing that Monolith has on 
their Blood page?  
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<Taco> does anyone know the launch sequence code for the two missles in area 51 
on the plutonuim pak?
<QWAB> George: Nick says that they are gonna try their best to get blood done 
this year, if they finish are u gonna release it?
<AlfredE> heeey vincester
<Nman> george : the min requierments or Ppak is not really the same as the old 
duke.. it is a lot more demanding
<GeorgB3DR> QWAB:  Blood will not be out this year
<QWAB> hey vince
<[vince]> hey all
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<^BlAdE^> george: nifty :) whats with the powering up your weapons?
<[vince]> hey qwab
<Nman> george : it runs a lot slower on my p75
<GeorgB3DR> NMan:  Maybe a little.  there is a caching problem that makes the 
game run slow.  Will be fixed with v1.5 patch
<^BlAdE^> george: how were u able to code that in u in effect u got a new 
weapons? did u add it ass an actor or what?
<GeorgB3DR> Blade:  Where?
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<|uP|> Great Lord Mikathaca is here. All hail Mikathaca !
<Mikathaca> j duke3d
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<QWAB> George: i know you decide when to release blood but are u gonna decide 
when to release blood or just have a mutual decision with the blood team?
<DOLey> hello  again
<GeorgB3DR> Blade:  Don't know what you are talking about?
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<MattCake> Blade:learn to type dude <G>
<GeorgB3DR> QWAB: When the game is ready, it will go out.  That simple.
<^BlAdE^> george: i read that blood will have the ablity to update weapons with 
a "powerup", this causing each weapon to become double or enitrely new
<D_Nukem> When will it be ready? When it's done! :)
<QWAB> blade yes you can pick up two of one weapon
<GeorgB3DR> Blade:  Yes, it's just a "get itme" thing and the weapon does a new 
effect.  No big deal.  Like Dark Forces was
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<QWAB> i wouldnt ask when anything from 3d realms will be done cause i know the 
answer
<MattCake> dark forces = cool :)
<GeorgB3DR> I'll answer "When I'm ready" too :)
<AlfredE> George: In your interview with Gamecenter, you mentioned a weapon that 
fired multiple things at once. How would the player specify how many rockets 
to shoot?
<MattCake> theres some good algebra for ya
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<QWAB> i wish rob was here
<[vince]> dark forces would have rocked w/multiplayer
<Cerebris> hehe
<^BlAdE^> hmm
<QWAB> lol
<MattCake> vince : yeah
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<QWAB> jedi knight should be good
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  And smaller levels to play on :_)
<ra|n> Hi George
<D_Nukem> George: Can you tell us why Monolith is looking for Blood beta testers 
on their page? 
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<^BlAdE^> george: will there be ambient sound/dynamic lighting/scripts in blood?
<|uP|> Great Lord Patola is here. All hail Patola !
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<GeorgB3DR> DN:  Nope, meant to call them about that :)
<QWAB> dn: they are looking for experienced beta testers
<PreySpy> Hi George
<[vince]> George: well, single play the levels weren't to big.. but if there was 
multiplayer, they would have been HUUUUUGE
<QWAB> blade blood has the best 3d sound system ever
<GeorgB3DR> Blade:  Sound-yes, dynam lighting-no, scripts-no (unless they add 
them)
<D_Nukem> George: They posted that without talking to you first?
<_TheMAD_> MAttCake: I wont flame but I'll add that I fully agree with you! 
COMPLETLY!
<_TheMAD_> Patola.. you're in Brasil?!
<GeorgB3DR> QWAB:  Still gotta come from 2d speakers ya know :)  I think Quake 
sounds pretty good too
<Patola> _TheMAD_: Yes.
<Nman> Quake sucks george
<_TheMAD_> well.. how are you gonna play george from there?!
<AlfredE> what is the official Blood web site URL?
<Patola> _TheMAD_: using KALI or TEN
<Nman> george : dont even try to make duke like quake!! Quake is way too dark
<D_Nukem> www.blood.com
<QWAB> George will i meant best 3d sound system out of 2 speakers ever ;)
<GeorgB3DR> Nman:  Both games have their merrits, don't ya think?
<AlfredE> D: That sounds hard to remember... let me get a piece of paper.... =+}
<QWAB> ya quake is cool but duke is cool too i cant just stop playing one of 
them
<Nman> george : not really.. I think duke kicks Quake's ass
<Nman> george: in almost every aspect
<^BlAdE^> george: thank you for your time sir and feel free to contact me at 
jazzdug@dur.mindspring.com if u need anything
<D_Nukem> Alfred: They should have put some thought into the URL before putting 
it there :)
<PreySpy> George, will Prey support the new Auburn Graphic Code that Intel is 
developing
<GeorgB3DR> cya blade
<QWAB> quake has true 3d and team play and inet play which gives it some credit
<dEcAy> Actually quake does have some cool stuph
<dEcAy> If quake + duke3d it would be the ULTIMATE game
<[vince]> Quake is a good game.. could have been alot better, but it was good
<D_Nukem> George: At this time what hardware will Prey be supporting?
<Nman> decay - sorta
<GeorgB3DR> prey:  Prey is early.  It will support that which does not suck, so 
says Butthead
<dEcAy> Add the great graphics and sound will the Fun and Weapons variety u get 
in Duke and it would rock
<GeorgB3DR> DN: See above
<PreySpy> AWESOME
<Patola> dEcAy: SURE!! but just IF it doesn't have those UGLY brown medieval 
textures.
<_TheMAD_> the only good thing in quake is the 3d and the gameplay you're right 
but it's just too dark and it's missing stuff you have in Duke3D
<GeorgB3DR> 3D Realms -- That which does not suck
<_TheMAD_> and Quake is more demanding in computer power
<PreySpy> keep up the good work!!!
<GeorgB3DR> Cya Prey
<MattCake> Quake is more demanding cos of the engine
<PreySpy> Cya George
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<Nman> PATOLA - great point
<QWAB> but quake is easier to play on a crappy system because your aim does not 
jump all over the place
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<GeorgB3DR> Cool, channel filling up again
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<MattCake> QWAB?
<Nman> MattCake - I think it's more the graphics then the engine
<QWAB> !voice ops notice this
<_TheMAD_> hey I had blood beta something.. have no idea where I got it from 
though.. it looks preety cool but many things were not done in that beta
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<MattCake> nman:uh uh , its the extra calculations
<D_Nukem> George: Epic is giving everyone a xmas present by releasing an Unreal 
movie on the 25th.  How about something from Apogee/3DRealms? (hint, hint) ;)
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  Cool, I'll have to get it :)  You get a less-bug-free Plutonium 
for Xmas. :)
<dEcAy> lol DN
<QWAB> George: any possibilty for a bot patch?
<[vince]> D_: hehehe.. and a HUGE movie in the Feb. issue of Next Gen.
<GeorgB3DR> You can't see squat in those movies anyway and they are only 5-7 
seconds long
<_TheMAD_> that blood page is nice
<AlfredE> D: Too subtle. Try this: "Release a movie, please, George!"
<QWAB> yes matt?
<GeorgB3DR> QWAB:  Maybe v1.6, we gotta finish this asap, for the Atomic launch 
at retail
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<D_Nukem> Release a full motion picture! :)
<[vince]> George: long-ass movie in February issue of Next Gen. mag
<dEcAy> LOL
<MattCake> QWAB: er, you're lagged man. I queried you about 5 mins ago <G>
<Nman> george - I am sorry to say but you made the bots pretty **stupid**...  
They are hard only because they are very fast(normal players can't be that 
fast) and their gunpower is way stronger then what it should be
<dEcAy> "The Making of BLood3D"
<GeorgB3DR> Nman:  The bots were never supposed to be production code.  Just a 
last second hack
<MattCake> nman:Are you a programmer?
<GeorgB3DR> We know they suck as is
<MattCake> nman:have you tried AI? It's pretty tricky
<D_Nukem> George: 1.5? 1.6?  I remember you guys saying back in January that you 
wanted it done right the first time and not a million patches like Doom.  It 
doesn't look like it's going to end up like that.
<Nman> Mattcake - yes i am
<MattCake> nman:then you should know, yeah?
<Cyberllam> Can the power of the bots be edited with the Game.con and use.con?
<GeorgB3DR> I love it when people challenge me, I say "Hollywood" and they say 
"Nah, pick abnother level or I don't play ya".  IronMan was such a person :)
<Patola> George: but, on the other hand, the dukebot is one of the coolest 
things in the game, like BUILD was in the original duke3d. You should support 
it, even if it is just a bit, because they are reasons for your success.
<IronMUTE> George, explain DukeTag to anyone who does not know about it
<Nman> Mattcake - I think there are a couple of ways to make the bots a little 
bit smarter
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  Major games will always have patches :)
<MattCake> I do that - HH sucks IMO
<GeorgB3DR> We'd have been done at 1.3d if not for Plutonium.  Almost like a new 
game
<MattCake> EVERYONE always plays there and knows it
<Patola> George: I challenge ya!!!!! Heheh
<GeorgB3DR> Sorry, it was, IronMUTE instead ....
<Nman> mattcake - One thing is Opening doors! a simple if-then command will make 
it
<MattCake> nman:a mate of mine has made a bot that can open certain doors
<GeorgB3DR> Iron:  DukeTag is too complex.  They need to read the docs on it.  
Cool though
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<Nman> Matt - rest my case hehe
<AlfredE> Iron: What is DukeTag?
<PreySpy> Patola, I would challange you if I had Kali and a fast Comp.!
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<MattCake> nman : point taken :)
<QWAB> George: a bot patch would rule i think, put 2 guys on it for 2 weeks and 
right there you got like 200 hours of man power reaper was made in less
<GeorgB3DR> QWAB: :) we will see..
<Blackhand> QWAB you gonna pay for them to work 200 hours?
<QWAB> sure i will ;)
<Blackhand> God knows they make at least 5x min. wage
<PreySpy> LOL
<QWAB> umm i think a few other ppl would chip in thou ;)
<MattCake> I know how much apogee pays level designers
<D_Nukem> $4.75 an hour? That's pretty good!
<MattCake> but im not saying
<Blackhand> D 5 times that ;)
<D_Nukem> Blackhand: More like 1 times that :)
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<QWAB> ha in canada miniumum wage is 5.45
<B92mer> anyone in florida here??
<D_Nukem> QWAB: Fiqure in the exchange rate
<Blackhand> And you guys ALWAYS have to pay more for stuff ;)
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<dEcAy> Ahhh A fellow Canuck 'eh?
<dEcAy> :)
<QWAB> dnukem i know just flaunting it
<TerrapiN> hi
<QWAB> 5.45 * .73
<QWAB> opps too much qbasic
<B92mer> damn..i wanted to dukematch too
<GeorgB3DR> You guys cheer IronMUTE on, and give him nads enough to play me...
<Mothrpuck> Hi george...I have a 3D quaestion for anyone who knows about the 
topic, what does z-buffering mean?
<D_Nukem> George: Where is our Duke Nukem Saturday Morning cartoon show? :)
<dEcAy> LOL!
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<Cerebris> hehe
<Blackhand> hahaha
<Nman> george - When I played 8 players in stadium (fake dukematch) After some 
time the game got stuck.. I think it's because of all the bodies that were 
lying around... try to fix it plz :)
<GeorgB3DR> moth:  it's how you depth sort the drawing of polygons, so you know 
what to draw ist etc
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<Blackhand> I wanna play ya sometime George ;)
<QWAB> i would dmatch george just so i could tell my friends but i wouldnt 
wanted to waste george's time i know what that is like
<MattCake> z buffering is a thing used to display sprites at correct position 
and size
<MattCake> I think
<dEcAy> That would rock
<Horsepuck> umm..err.. hoho ;)
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<D_Nukem> Blackhand: You mean you want to waste his time :)
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  I'd love a late night MTV cartoon where Duke could get raunchy
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<Cerebris> huhhuh
<Blackhand> Hahahaha, no you would waste his time ;)
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<dEcAy> Who's up for the new B & B Movie!
<dEcAy> Duke Nukem Movie!
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<Cerebris> ME!
<QWAB> i said i dont want to waste his time
<Cerebris> uh oh
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<dEcAy> I heard there is a Doom Movie in the works
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<QWAB> black i said i dont want to waste his time
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<AlfredE> decay: I heard that too
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<Patola> GeorgB3DR: When will Duke Nukem - The Movie be out? And Duke- The 
Cartoon? Duke - The bubble gum? etc...
<QWAB> <QWAB> i would dmatch george just so i could tell my friends but i 
wouldnt wanted to waste george's time i know what that is like
<dEcAy> Mmmmmm Duke Bubble Gum
<GeorgB3DR> Ptola:  Call Hollywood and demand the Duke movie :)
<dEcAy> Heh... Duke already blew Hollywood up
<_TheMAD_> I think you should skip the cartoon
<dEcAy> well the aliens did... he just cleaned house
<Patola> hahahaha
<Patola> good thought dEcAy
<PreySpy> LOL
<AlfredE> "Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all outta gum..." 
Luckily, I bought my "DukeNukem3d brand bubblegum, eh?
<QWAB> where can i get duke nukem baby vitimins?
<D_Nukem> George: Have you figured out the new name for Duke Nukem Forever, or 
will it be called: The game formally known as Duke Nukem Forever, or will it 
be something like: &  ?
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<Nman> quit this
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<AlfredE> bye matt
<Cyberllam> Not necessary 
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  unknown at this present time cycle
<QWAB>  is the duke nukem forever symbol
<Nman> why did you ban him?!?!?!
<_TheMAD_> how about duke steroids?
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<Nman> that was stupid
<Cerebris> Unban matt....
<B92mer> blackhand seems a bit BAN happy
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<AlfredE> bye all
<Blackhand> B92mer, you want to start something?
<B92mer> oh jeez
<dEcAy> Okay.. SERIOUSLY... is there actually a Duke Cartoon in the works?
<QWAB> thats alt-145 on your number pad
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<Nman> oh jizz alright
<_TheMAD_> so the duke3d sequel is the forever thing?
<dEcAy> Hit ALT-F4
<GeorgB3DR> Later guys....
<Cerebris> 
<dEcAy> For those characters
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<QWAB> time cycle a little too much star trek George?
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<Nman> 
<GeorgB3DR> TheMAD:  No, there will be a new Duke3d game....
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<AlfredE> NMan: Thanks, but I prefer the real thing...
<dEcAy> Cya George
<Duke> George - You just came into #unreal to get our attention, right?
<Blackhand> Later George
<D_Nukem> There will be many Duke games for years to come
<Duke> crap, he left. oh well..
<AlfredE> bye all
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